the dow has been all over the place today. it's about flat right now. "your world" with neil cavuto is never that. the news and much more still to come, this is fox news channel. >> neil: welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto. you're watching "your world." what a world a difference this makes. a revolution that russia knew ahead of time about the planned chemical weapons attack in syria. the attack that triggered our tomahawk missile attack last week. does that change is entire equation here ahead of rex tillerson headed to russia tomorrow? we're told no vladimir putin. to kevin corke at the white house. >> hi, neil. this is a devastating revelation if it's true. the means that the russians knew that children would be the victim of a devastating attack

like this. it's inexplicable to thinking what on earth they could be doing. that all led to the response by the united states and president trump ordering the strike on syria's chemical we pops and obviously some bases and other materials inside that country. here's what sean spicer had to say about russia and that particular attack. >> i think that if you look at the countries that are with us, it speaks loudly the number of countries that have stood shoulder to shoulder with this president. russian stands with syria, north korea and iran. when you contrast the two groups of countries, it's clear that we're on the right side of this issue. >> judging by the companies you keep. and at the united nations, nikki haley has been very forceful on this issue about russia, iranian

influence and what is happening in syria. >> i think what you'll see is pressure on the political solution. that's what will really happen. in no way do we look at peace happening in that area with iranian influence and no way do we see peace in that area with russia covering up for assad and no way do we see peace with assad at the head of the syrian government. >> with russia covering up for assad. that's what she said. devastating again, the allegations. if they are true, this says all you need to know about the russian regime, what is happening with the assad regime inside syria and the incredible need, neil, to do something about it. >> neil: amazing. thanks, kevin. the fast-moving developments and chemical weapons and how long syria had them, why they didn't let go of them in the first place. who better to talk to than someone that was a victim of the attacks. he was piled in between corpses

before rescuers realized that he was alive. take a look. >> some have problem with regime change, as you know. they worry that whoever replaces assad could be even worse than assad. what do you think of that? >> sir, with all due respect, this is pure hypocrisy. how can you say that whoever is going to replace assad will be worse? assad killed 500,000 people for the love of god. he displaced half of the country. he destroyed the country. he gassed women and children. who can be worse than him? he's worse than hitler. who is worse than him? how can you not give us a chance, just a chance a fair chance, to have free elections and choose our leader by ourselves? by polling. you should give us a chance. this is the united states. like i really don't understand

how people can be so hypocrites when it comes to this. how can you judge others and not give others a chance to vote while you have this amazing blessing that you get to elect your president. we saw what happens with president trump. everybody said that he doesn't have a chance. everybody said that he's not a good guy. but he won. he proved to be a good guy. so just like you have this chance, you have this privilege, please help to us get this chance, to try to determine our own government. we demonstrated for 11 months peacefully, millions and millions of people, we were just asking for freedom, for free elections so we can live as equal citizens for the very first time after 40 years. 40 years of assad dictator ship. they taught us in school the united states is evil. what we learned during the past six years, that showed us that

the only evil we had is our own government. but you should do something. you should make more effort to -- >> you worry that maybe given our experience in iraq when after we toppled saddam hussein that americans are telling our president go slow here. does that bother you? does it bother you the only way we'll respond is if there's another chemical attack. you were right to point out the hundreds of thousands killed in traditional attacks and we draw the line at chemical attacks. >> well, sir, unfortunately, we're paying for other people's mistakes. a lot of people see the iraq war and afghanistan war as a mistake. we paid the price for that mistake. in syria, it's different. we demonstrated, the people rebelled against a dictator. the people proved to the entire world for mother than 11 months that they want to live free, that they want democracy, that they don't want war.

they have enough with the dictatorship. people just wanted to build their country. assad destroyed the country. assad destroyed everything that has to do with syria. assad helped us get created without his crimes against humanity, there would not be a vacuum for isis and extremist groups. if you want to take out isis, you must take out assad. without that, it's a waste of time and effort and a waste of lot of lives. >> neil: that's the guy that wants obviously president trump to do even more and follow up on missile attack last week. now with these revelations that the russians knew in advance what assad was up to and what it was planning, they had some drama ahead of the big meeting between the secretary of state and his russian counter part. jim what do you make of this

guy? we like what you're thing and mr. president, we're impressed the fact that you followed up here hahn what constitutes horror but he's going to keep doing it. we have to topple the regime. it's a slippery slope. >> he's got a very good substantive point. i've been in four negotiations with the russians and one i headed up. they're always going to play games with you. they always know ahead of time what's going on. the things that is important to realize is that if there's some kind of strategic disadvantage as they were in one of my negotiations, the berlin wall had just gone down -- let me tell you, we had nice russians working with us. if you have something like that, you can effect the outcome. in the mid 80s, the price of oil went down to $10 a barrel. that had probably the biggest impact on russia's collapsing

more than anything. well what we need to do is figure out a way -- and there is one -- to get the price of oil down steady, not tiny, but steady and low and it will be good for american consumers and good for rocking the russians on their heels. >> what a number of dissents that have raised and those that have survived the attacks in this country, that we draw a line at chemical weapons when he was in fact saying what you say nothing about the hundreds of thousands that died under conventional attacks. there was a conventional attack follow up this past weekend and he wonders why we don't respond to that. what is it about chemical weapons that draws us? >> in some circumstances, you can do that. others not. depends on a lot of things on a case by case basis. you're better off if you weaken

them strategically. then you have a better playing field. if you just let -- get the to let epa have a situation develop whereby we can buy at the pump something other than just gasoline, we can buy methanol, buy this, buy that, you'll see the price of oil go down rather decidedly and you'll see russians that are much easier to deal with than they are in the absence of that. >> when they're economically distressed, they're a different opponent. the russians say if we do this again, launch a tomahawk attack, they'll do something in kind. they h there now. do you think they will do that and where is this going? >> i don't know. it could spiral out of control. it's a tense situation and one of the number of reasons that

you want to -- if they want to play checkers, let's play chess and take them down in a different way. undercut their economy. >> do you think that is likely? does the latest developments where we're getting pretty good intelligence that the russians knew in advance what assad was doing. what do you make of that and how that changes the equation? i'm sure even though i've not heard it, the russians are going to deny this. >> assad is the russians and the iranians poodle. he will do what he's told. russia really wants to main thane that foot hold on the mediterranean, so they're going to be really tough and holding on to what they've come up with already. the iranians want to lead a shiite conquest of the whole region. we have a real mess on our hands. that's why we have to have

economic strength to play successfully. >> neil: thanks, sir. you know what susan rice was saying against week and the lakes before that? the latest thing that she had trusted that chemical yes -- weapons were addressed. on top of that, what she said about russia's involvement in our election and on and on. so when someone calls for her to be studied and probed, the republican congressman that recommended just that, he's the one that is booed, not susan rice. >> one of the more serious roles is that of susan rice -- now why is it -- how interesting. what is good for the goose isn't also good for the gander? ♪

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>> i cannot imagine that president obama was ever alleged to do any of these things the republican party would not have had a field day. >> both the house and the senate are conducting extensive investigations into all of those allegations. one of the most serious one has just come to light is the role of susan rice and -- now why is it -- why is it -- how interesting. >> what about president trump? that was my question. is about president trump. >> how interesting it is -- complaining about partisanship that you are -- you want

legitimately to look into allegations involving russian influence and yet you do not want to look into very serious allegations regarding the american government breaking our own laws to influence our elections. >> neil: that's what they call a heated town hall meeting. tom mcclintock knows it and still bringing the message to the states. congressman mcclintock, sounds like that got nasty. >> it has been seeing nasty. what we're seeing is the radical left on full display. the intolerance for any descending viewpoints and the double standard. >> neil: i don't know. when you went into that, you knew -- this is the way town

hall meetings have been going for colleagues. you go into a viper's nest here. a good minute didn't want the hear anything bad about susan rice and what she knew and when she do it even though she's had inconsistent positions. some would go to say that she lied repeatedly. for example, on this very issue. so i'm wondering how you try to explain to people that if we're going to have an investigation into russian meddling in our election and that is the case, you might as well get to the bottom of what she knew hand who she was outing at the same time. >> it goes much further than susan rice. it goes into the politization of our intelligence agencies. the most disturbing development we've seen since the inauguration was the leaking of private conversations between the president of the united states and other heads of state. that sends a powerful message around the world that world

leaders can not with confidence talk to the president candidately for fear that political operatives within our own intelligence agencies will leak those conversations to the world. >> congressman, this was this weekend you had this town hall meeting, right? >> yes. >> neil: it was to close to the tomahawk attack in syria. that seemed to put to bed this issue that donald trump might have a patsy relationship with vladimir putin and that he wouldn't do anything to upset putin. put that to rest. but still seemed the crowd was itching for a fight. >> this was the red call left. they demonized trump in the campaign and still demonizing him. they completely lost touch with the american people and stunned -- >> neil: did any of them acknowledge that that cozy

relationship was at the very least compromised? if donald trump was bought and paid for or done a favor by the russians, he had a funny way of showing it? >> no. they were working on talking points all written and handed out. i didn't see many spontaneity with any of the red call elements in the crowd. >> what did you think about the town hall? how does this change the russian investigation in light of the missile attack that we launched and it's clear that now obviously tensions are such that rex tillerson, when he arrives in moscow is he wouldn't be meeting with vladimir putin and meeting with his russian counter part and that could be an icy affair. it's allowed people that we could be repositioned with regards to the russian government. what do you think of that?

>> i'm concerned that things are moving too much back to the cold war. but it certainly puts to light any suggestion that somehow president trump is vladimir putin's patsy. >> neil: let me ask you about where we go from here. there's records, a.p. principlely, that the russians knew in advance that assad was going to launch this chemical attack on northern syria. now that's from a.p. it's not gospel. others cannot confirm it. if that were the case, it proves the russians knew or could have known that not only did assad have chemical weapons and never agreed to, nor policed properly this u.n. brokered agreement to get rid of the records. what do you make of that? >> if it turns out to be true and may well, there's a wide range of diplomatic pressures that the president can bring on the russians. our constitution is very clear

on one point. that is that military attacks in other countries must be authorized by congress. they cannot be done unilaterally by the president. that is a principal that james madison, the father of our constitution, thought was the most element. >> congressman, thank you. good seeing you again. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> meantime, we're getting all swords of word out of the word out the white house the tax cut could be delayed. the white house wants to set things right after this. whether it's connecting one of the world's most innovative campuses. or bringing wifi to 65,000 fans. businesses count on communication, and communication counts on centurylink.

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associated press but i take nothing of value when it comes to foreign news without checking with jennifer griffin. at issue, jennifer can tell you, the report the a.p. has out there that the russians knew in advance of syria's planned chemical attack. what are you hearing? >> neil, as of right now, we cannot confirmed the a.p. report. the a.p. is saying that -- it's quoting an unnamed senior official saying that russian knew in advance about syria's chemical attack and the implication is that they didn't do anything to stop it. what is also quoted we can confirm, from a briefing last friday here at the pentagon, two senior defense officials saying the u.s. government was investigating whether russia knew in advance. pentagon officials that i've spoken to here today, this afternoon, say that they're not ready to say as of yet that

russia knew in advance. the reason on friday we were told by these two senior military commanders in the wake of the tomahawk strike that they were investigating russia's possible involvement with the chemical weapons attack is that there were several pieces of circumstantial evidence. for one, there were 12 to 100 russians based at that air base where chemical weapons had been stored in the past and where they believed, the u.s. government believed, that the attack on that village that took place last tuesday, the planes took off from that base where the russians were. so at that time, they also noticed that there was a russian drone above the hospital where many of the victims of that chemical weapons attack was taken. a five hours later a russian made aircraft, either russian or syrian air force, bombed the hospital. that's why the pentagon is look

into this. pentagon officials say they cannot confirm that they knew in advance about the attack. >> thanks, jennifer griffin. the white house is deny ago record that this whole tax cut thing is in disarray. blake burman with the latest from the white house what are you hearing on this whole tax thing? >> what folks at the white house are saying is that what they're going through right now is the normal process, pushing back on the report that the president's plan that he unveiled on the campaign trail have been scrapped. back to the drawing board. they say the tax cuts are a plan and a few weeks away and they're trying to gather ideas and that is the normal process. separately you have another thing going on here at white house, in is a recalibration of expectations. let's go back to march 1 when you interviewed the treasury

secretary, steve mnuchin said tax cuts would get done by august. friday, gary cohn said he wasn't so sure it would happen by august. so i asked sean spicer the following question. listen. >> americans are filling out their tax forms. will they have a 2017 tax cut next year? >> middle americans will have a tax cut by them. >> and they're pushing back that everything is in disarray. >> thanks, blake. you heard what was said by next year at this time, the middle class will have a tax cut leaving out other people. let's explore that with charlie gasparino here. the president's approval numbers picked up after the missile attack on syria. that could be the wind at his

back for other things what do you make of this? >> i've been speaking to people at the trump white house, know people there. here's the startling thing. there's no real details on the plan. we know about the 15% number deal. closing loop holes and lowering the rates at the top giving the middle class a tax cut as well, maybe the biggest since ronald reagan in 80s. the details sort of leak out when you do your budgets. we're not hearing any details which is lending some credence to the notice that they're recalibrating everything. health reform first was the way you were going to pay for these

drastic tax cuts. as you know, there's no health reform being passed. based on that, they have to go back and recalibrate and see how much it's going to congress, what is the baseline budget going to be for whatever plan they're coming with. so i would say this: they may call it business as usual. i like sean spicer a lot, a good guy. but i'm telling you, it can't be business as usual given the fact that the healthcare plan did not pass and those savings from healthcare cannot be computed inside the budget, which is a big part of what his tax plan will look like. >> so you have to wonder if it doesn't materialize this year, next year is problematic. >> and the markets are predicated and turning sideways on the notion of 15% or more.

that will increase corporate earnings and introduce stocks prices. if you're the average investor, there should be a sell off. i hate predicting the markets. >> neil: thank you very much. charlie gasparino, our fox news channel star. we know the united nations botched it when it came to policing syria's chemical weapons. i want you to meet the guy that took out osama bin laden says that is the problem.

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some in his own party, others say he opened a pandora's box. what do you think? >> thanks for having me. i work with a lot of heros, too. it was a good thing that donald trump did with the strike in syria. the criticism comes out that they can use the runway and do this. we weren't trying to destroy syria. if we want to, we could. we sent a message taking out radars, planes. giving them a smack on the face saying we need to talk about this. syria and assad are puppets to the russians. we tried with diplomacy, putin lied to us. we're sending a battle carrier group to include cruisers.

this is the way we use forward defense and one of which is deterrent. you can't deter people without using force, this starts the conversation. >> you said the red line, not following up on that created this vacuum. >> yeah. having red lines and does not back them up has created messes everywhere. look what happened in palm sunday on egypt. two catholic churches. syria is a mess. we have my grants coming through europe. they're going to get here, this is because there isn't a world leader with good intentions. there's powerful countries out there but they're interested themselves like china and russia. the united states backed off. hurts us in a lot of different ways. we're not trusted anymore. >> and it's not been confirmed yet, but the russians are said to have known in advance of assad's chemical attack in the

northern part of his country. let's say they did. how does that change things? >> that is a report coming out of the a.p. saying the russians knew in advance. it's not confirmed. the pentagon hasn't confirmed it. i've heard reports that there's russian special forces on base we hit. if that's the case, there's premier russian soldiers and officers there and they didn't know about it, year either ignorant or incompetent. >> neil: it shows the united nations that is supposed to be in change of that and making charge to avoid a widening conflict that the syrians would get rid of this stuff but didn't. >> putting the u.n. in charge is like bring your daughter to workday. she was painting something, i'm helping, i'm helping. >> neil: that's an analogy that i didn't expect. >> yeah, fit hand and glove. >> neil: the russians say you do this again, united states, we're

not going to let it go by. so let's say they have is ship closing in there. what do you think they are going to do if we're driven to do it again? >> they're going to need to posture just because of their citizens there. they need to prove they're strong. but russia doesn't want to go to war with us. we don't want to either. but just by using what we have, people that we have here, we can take russia. that's not going to come to that. we're putting ourselves back at the table for real negotiations. unfortunately with people like vladimir putin, the other countries, you need to use force with force at the point of origin. >> i've talked to someone on the receiving end of these chemical weapons being used on the part of assad in the past. he said in the united states you have to realize that assad has to go. the history would suggest that sometimes, you know, it leads to pandemonium. what do you think of that?

>> we had the case in iraq. like it happened in the early 90s. if we take them out, we'll get help from the locals. we didn't go in with secondary plans. >> syria is not go to work with assad. has to be someone similar that can be a russian puppet. they need someone to push around. >> so our goal shouldn't be to depose him? >> not necessarily depose him but it's not as simple as there's a bad guy, let's kill him. there's a lot of negotiations there. how many troops of iranians are in iraq. have the -- there's not a correct right or wrong answer but needs to be a negotiation with the powers over the region and over here. even in europe. nato. >> neil: we may be ahead of the

official release. but this book of yours is getting a lot of buzz about the killing of osama bin laden in may of 2011 and that you single handedly killed bin laden. obviously that is -- >> that's the book coming out. it's not just about the bin laden raid. it's a great book. unfortunately we can have another interview in a couple days and talk about it. it will be awesome. >> you parentally gave away some info that cost you to give up $7 million. >> note me. this is the first to be approved by the dod. >> yeah. you didn't compromise that. >> a lot of people like to bring up supposed controversy -- >> but none was given up in this book. >> nothing in this book. everybody has looked at it and approved it. >> so on bin laden himself.

much has been said why he was buried at sea. he was pretty banged up after the shooting and unrecognizable. >> that's probably true. i don't want to get into that yet. >> i thought if you were getting tired you might reveal something and not know it. thanks, rob. rob o'neal. >> great to be with you. >> the man that shot bin laden. very brave guy. doesn't get rattled. should be an interesting book. all right. you know, ever been on one of those fights where they ask volunteers to give up their seat on a plane? this is what happens when they don't have volunteers. they drag your ass off the plane.

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when they didn't find a number of volunteers to give up their seats. trace gallagher with the latest on that. trace, what was going on here? >> well, you know, it's routine to overbook flights and force people off. united airlines forced 3,700 passengers off a flight but not like this. this passenger was among four that had to get off for a united flight crew. three went willingly. this man refused and said he was a doctor and needed to see patients in a louisville hospital. at first, two airport police officers tried to reason with the man. a third officer dragged him over the guardrail and down the isle. you can hear the passengers gasping how the man was treated. >> oh, my god! what are you doing? no, this is wrong. oh, my god. look what you're doing to him. >> and after the man was dragged

off the jet, he somehow broke free and get back on the plane. he ran to the back dazed and bloodied. when he was taken off, several passengers followed him. finally all of the passengers were asked to leave the airplane. after the flight delay, the flight took off. united said it was upsetting and our team is moving with a sense of urgency to conduct a detailed review of what happened. chicago's aviation department didn't need much of a review. the officer that drug him off has been placed on leave. initially united offered the passengers that got bumped $800. something tells me the man that got draped off will be offered a sweeter deal before this is over. i want to end by pointing out a new study says that airlines are on time more often losing fewer

bags and getting fewer complaints. tell that to the passengers of 3,000 delta flights cancelled in just the past few days. >> holy cow. all right. flyers take note. trace gallagher. thanks very much. we now know the perpetrator behind the attacks in sweden said they were not supposed to be in the country. they filed all the paperwork to get out of the country. he stayed in the country. that's just what worried the texas governor. we have the same rules in place here. good luck.

>> neil: all right. he was from uzbekistan and

wanted asylum in sweden. he was rejected, but he stayed in the country. authorities couldn't kick him off. you know what happened. he took out four and injuring dozens in a shooting rampage that could have been worse. it's the kind of things that worrying greg abbott. this is the same grief that you deal with. what do you think? >> that's part of what's behind our efforts here in the state of texas, for example, to crack down on sanctuary city policies. that's why in this capitol behind me, we're working to pass a law that will ban sanctuary cities and pose stiff penalties for any county or city official that tries to adopt sanctuary city policies. we're not going to import or maintain danger on our streets in texas. neil that's why earlier today i

announced a crack down on gang activity in houston so we can do more to rid ourselves like gangs ms 13 to keep our streets safe. >> neil: who happens -- you're part of the consortium of states in is support of the president's revised immigration order and not those that are trying to stop it. but i don't understand how if you have been rejected or you can't be here and authorities are -- won't even relay that to ice agents, then your hands are tied. >> right. on that ban, the law is clear. the law is if you're a resident or citizen of another country, you don't have a right to come to the united states. the law is clear that the president has the authority and the flexibility for safety purposes to decide who gets to come into the united states and the facts are clear that president obama and as well as congress identify seven

countries that it's possible to vet people coming from these countries that had connections to terror. so the president is fully within his authority to reject for a short period of time people from terror sponsored nations. there's a reason for this, neil. think back to last november. you saw the kill ing occur on the campus of the ohio state university. a refugee from somalia that came through the state of texas, went to ohio state and went on car rampage and endangering the students there. we should not sponsor opportunities for people to come in and wreck terror in or country like that. >> neil: or to institutionalize it. let me ask you, tax cuts are seeming to get delayed. going to get pushed back further. growing talk as to whether everybody gets a tax cut, we don't know. i know tax cuts have been a very

big boon to texas and what you've done and encourage businesses. are you worried that it falls apart on a national basis and it's not as sweeping and not as generous, too early to tell but delayed, do you get worried? >> you mentioned two things. texas has been the magnet to create jobs, bringing people here from other states. businesses relocating from other states. the reason is because we have a low tax and low regulatory environment. what the president is trying to achieve, really is to replicate the tax model. he wants to cut taxes to energize business to grow more jobs. >> but republicans don't agree on the broad principles of it. >> that's what they need to do, neil. i feel confident when everyone it ises down and talks through the mass of the situation, they find a way to cut taxes without increasing the deficit.

>> you think you should go into that, governor, saying it should be revenue neutral in the beginning or do you accept deficits with the hope that you'll get revenue later. >> one of the goals has to be to decrease the deficit and the debt. we are obviously $20 trillion in the debt and we shouldn't stocking more into debt in this nation. however, there's ways that we can still cut taxes to stimulate job growth that through the stimulation we'll decrease the debt and the deficit. >> governor, we'll see what happens. thank you. grab abbott, if governor of the beautiful state of texas. all right. beautiful is not the word i'd use to describe what is going to be a very tense session as far as secretary of state when he gross to russia. how that likely will go down. two words. "not well."

>> neil: the secretary of state will be in moscow

tomorrow. whether he gets a meeting with vladimir putin is looking dicey. how these relations soured so fast, maybe putting to bed once and for all the notion that team putin and team trump would get along famously. apparently not. we will see you tomorrow. >> dana: i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, bob beckel, eric bolling, and greg gutfeld, it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five" ." there has been a lot of suspicion about whether russia helped syria carry out last week's chemical attack on civilians. today the ap is reporting russia did know in advance about the attack. fox news has not been able to confirm. meanwhile, russia and iran issued a joint statement threatening the u.s. if we strike again.